AUDIO recordings of the
Health At Every Size radio show with
Dr. Peggy Elam & Pat
Ballard, Queen of Rubenesque Romances and
Pearlsong Conversations
publisher, author & reader interviews & discussions

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resources mentioned in the shows, are at www.healthateverysize.info.
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Health At Every Size articles & principles
October 10, 2011 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish." Music includes "Happy Being Fat" (Big
Dee Irwin), "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel), "Somewhere Over the
Rainbow/What A Wonderful World" (Iz), "Choose Love" (Fortunate Sons), "The Flame" (Beth Neilsen
Chapman) & "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
October 3, 2011 show: "A
Conversation with Lauri J Owen." Music includes "Hottie" by Jana Stansfield.
September 26, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "TV Talk & More Salvos in the War on Fat People." Music includes
"The Boob Fairy" (Deirdre Flint) "Big Fat Mamas Are Back in Style" (Candye Kane), "Chubby Man
Blues" (Les Kerr) & "Fat Boys" (Uncle Bonsai).
September 19, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Healthy Hearts & Vessels in Fat Bodies." Music
includes "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster) & "Fit, Fat &
Fine" (Candye Kane).
September 12, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Snips & Snails & Puppy Dog Tales." Music includes
"Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel) & "Introduction to Belly
Dancing" (Deirdre Flint).
September 5, 2011 show: "A
Conversation with author Karen Blomain." Music includes "Introduction to Belly Dancing" (Deirdre
Flint).
August 29, 2011 show:
"Effects of Early Malnutrition on Later Life Health." Music includes "Big Fat Blonde" (The
Rainmakers), "Fat Bottomed Girls" (Queen), "Big Girl (You Are Beautiful)" (Mika), "Suit
Yourself" (Kate Campbell), "300 Pounds of Joy" (Howlin' Wolf), "Mister Five by Five" (Ella Mae
Morse), "Fit, Fat & Fine (Candye Kane), "Built for Luxury" (Abby Burke), "Start the
Commotion" (The Wiseguys) & "Hottie" (Jana Stansfield).
August 22, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Follow the Money." Music includes "Iphigenia" (Cosy
Sheridan) & "Fat Cat Keeps Getting Fatter" (Squirrel Nut Zippers).
August 15, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "What Not to Do to Your Child -- or Yourself." Music includes
"Baby Got Back" (Jonathan Coulton) & "Big, Beautiful & Sexy" (Casey Donovan).
August 8, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "A Long Happy Life & America the Beautiful 2". Music
includes "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots) & "More to Love" (Robin Mink).
August 1, 2011 show: "A
Conversation with Charlie Lovett, author of The Fat Lady Sings." Music includes "Phenomenal Woman" by
Ruthie Foster.
July 25, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "More Collateral Damage in the War on Obesity." Music includes
"You're the One for Me, Fatty" (Morrissey), "The Fear" (Lily Allen) & "You Need a Great Big
Woman" (Candye Kane).
July 18, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Kidnapping Fat Children in the Name of Health?" Music includes
"Roly Poly" (Bob Wills) & "When I Was A Child" (Suchi Waters Benjamin).
July 11, 2011 show:
"Impossible Ideals." Music includes "Even Free" (Kristi Martel), Mr. Five by Five (Ella Mae
Morse), 300 Pounds of Joy (Howlin' Wolf), I Like 'em Fat Like That (Louis Jordan & His Tympany
Five), "I Like A Whole Lotta Woman" (Josh Max's Outfit) & "Well-Rounded Woman" (Kent
Blazy).
June 27, 2011 show: "Making
Literary History -- A Pearlsong Conversation about Size Diversity & Fat Activism in
Literature." PegE talks with feminist literary historian Susan Koppelman & several
Pearlsong authors.
June 20, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Collateral Damage in the War on Obesity." Music includes
"Iphigenia" (Cosy Sheridan).
June 13, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Tennessee's War on Fat Kids." Music includes "The Bathing Suit
Song" (Minna Bromberg) & "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots).
June 6, 2011
show features a prerecorded May 2011 teleconference discussion in which PegE talks with several
Pearlsong Press authors—including HAES show co-host Pat Ballard—about body & age diversity in
contemporary literature.
May 30, 2011
show features the prerecorded April 15, 2011 Pearlsong Conversation with Ellen Frankel, author
of the new novel Syd Arthur. Music includes "Fit, Fat & Fine" (Candye Kane) & "Happy
Being Fat" (Big Dee Irwin).
May 23, 2011 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Dangerous Love & Headless Fatties." Music includes "Built for Luxury"
(Abby Burke).
May 16, 2011 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Arkansas Update & Food Fat Facts." Music includes "Fat Meat is Good Meat"
(Kristie Agee & Big Potential).
May 9, 2011 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "More Fat Facts!" Music includes "Start the Commotion" (The
Wiseguys).
May 2, 2011 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Tornadoes, Bin Laden, & the F-Word." Music includes "Somewhere Over the
Rainbow/What A Wonderful World" (Israel Kamakiwiwo'ole ) & "Happy Being Fat" (Big Dee
Irwin).
April 25, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Fat Facts." Music includes "So Round, So Firm, So Fully
Packed" (Merle Travis).
April 18, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "School Lunches, Homegrown Tomatoes, & Body
Profiling" Music includes "Homegrown Tomatoes" (Guy Clark), "Fat Women in Trailers" (Doyle
& Debbie), "Roly Poly" (Bob Wills) & "Everybody Eats When They Come to My House" (Cab
Calloway).
April 11, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Missing the Mark in Moral Panics About Weight." Music includes
"Fat-Bottomed Girls" (Queen).
April 4, 2011 show: "Which
of These Things is Not Like the Others?" Music includes "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots),
"Iphigenia" (Cosy Sheridan), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel), "Fat Girl" (Creamy Goodness),
"The Bathing Suit Song" (Minna Bromberg), "The Flame" (Beth Neilsen Chapman), "Choose Love"
(Fortunate Sons) & "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
March 28, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Ditch the 3Ds: Dieting, Drive for Thinness, & Body
Dissatisfaction." Music includes "Dorothy & Eve" (Cosy Sheridan).
March 21, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Spring! The Farm & Garden Episode." Music includes "Even
Free" (Kristi Martel).
March 14, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Survival." Music includes "Locust Years" (Kate
Campbell).
March 7, 2011 show: "More
Music." Music includes "Fat Bottomed Girls" (Queen), "Built for Luxury" (Abby Burke),
"Big Red Caboose" (Kristie Agee & Big Potential), "Wide Clyde" (Blue Lunch), "Fit, Fat &
Fine" (Candye Kane), "Large Women" (Christie Hardwick Vianson), "Fat Girl" (Creamy
Goodness), "Large & Lovely" (Crystal Senter Brown), "I Like 'em Fat Like That" (Louis Jordan
& His Tympany Five), "Well-Rounded Woman" (Kent Blazy), "Big Fat Blonde" (The Rainmakers)
& "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots).
February 28, 2011 show:
"For the Boys." Music includes "Meat on their Bones" (Kristie Agee), "Mister Five By Five" (Ella
Mae Morse), "Gitchua Fatboy" (FatBoy), "The Fat Man" (Fats Domino), 300 Pounds of Joy &
"Built for Comfort" (Howlin' Wolf), "Chubby Man Blues" (Les Kerr), "Fat Cat Keeps Getting Fatter"
(Squirrel Nut Zippers), "Fat Boys" (Uncle Bonsai), "Fat Boy Rag" & "Roly Poly" (Bob
Wills), "Happy Being Fat" (Big Dee Irwin), & "Somewhere Over the Rainbow/What A Wonderful World"
(Israel Kamakiwiwo'ole).
February 21, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "News You Can Use." Music includes "More to Love" (Robin
Mink).
January 31, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Journalistic Judo." Music includes "Fit, Fat & Fine"
(Candye Kane).
January 24, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Casualties of the War on Obesity." Music includes "Roly Poly"
(Bob Wills) & "Mister Five By Five" (Ella Mae Morse).
January 17, 2011 show: "The
Revolution Continues." Music includes "Let My People Go-Go" (The Rainmakers), "Freedom Now"
(Sweet Honey in the Rock), "Fat Girl" (Creamy Goodness), "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots),
"The Bathing Suit Song" (Minna Bromberg), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel), "Fat Cat Keeps Getting
Fatter" (Squirrel Nut Zippers), "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster) & "Suit Yourself" (Kate
Campbell).
January 3, 2011
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "New Year's Revolution." Music includes "If I Had No Fear"
(Jana Stanfield), "Revolution Earth" (B-52s) & "Happy Being Fat" (Big Dee
Irwin).
December 20, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Happy Holidays." Music includes "Santa Was A Fatboy 2"
(Fatboy), "The Flame" (Beth Neilsen Chapman) & "Choose Love" (Fortunate
Sons).
December 6, 2010 show:
"Follow the Money." Music includes "Happy Being Fat" (Big Dee Irwin), "Fat Girl" (Creamy
Goodness), "300 Pounds of Joy" (Howlin' Wolf) & "Suit Yourself" (Kate
Campbell).
November 15, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Medical Research." Music includes "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca
Riots) & "Even Free" (Kristi Martel).
November 8, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Eating & Weight." Music includes "Built for Luxury" (Abby
Burke), "Fat-Bottomed Girls" (Queen) & "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
November 1, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Kiss This!" Music includes "Please Don't Miss Me" (Suchi
Waters Benajmin) in honor of All Souls' Day, "Passionate Kisses" (Mary-Chapin Carpenter) & "You
Need A Great Big Woman" (Candye Kane).
October 25, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Relative Health." Music includes "Fit, Fat & Fine"
(Candye Kane) & "300 Pounds of Joy" (Howlin' Wolf).
October 18, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Start A Revolution -- Love Your Body!" Music includes "Choose Love"
(Fortunate Sons), "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots), "Revolution" (B-52s), "Let My People
Go-Go" (The Rainmakers), "Unconditional Love" (Tom Benjamin) & "U R Loved" (Victoria
Williams).
September 20, 2010 show: "A
Conversation with Lauri J Owens," author of the new paranormal romance novel Fallen
Embers (Book One of The Embers Series). Music includes "Fit, Fat & Fine" (Candye
Kane) & "Happy Being Fat" (Big Dee Irwin).
September 13, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Dedicated to Judy Freespirit." Music includes "Women's Bodies"
(Rebecca Riots), "Fat Girl" (Creamy Goodness), "Change" (Tracy Chapman), "Freedom Now"
(Sweet Honey in the Rock), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel) & "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie
Foster).
September 6, 2010
show with Anne R. Williams, Lynne Murray & Pat Ballard: "Transcending Trauma through Art &
Writing." Music includes "Beans & Cornbread" (Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five) &
"Peel Me A Grape" (Anita O'Day).
August 30, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Fat Politics, Abundia Retreat, & Fat TV." Music includes
"Somewhere Over the Rainbow/What A Wonderful World" (IZ) & "Fit, Fat & Fine" (Candye
Kane).
August 23, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Huge Misconceptions & Guidelines for Therapists." Music
includes "Start the Commotion" (The Wiseguys).
August 16, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Mixed Messages." Further discussion of the TV show HUGE, in
comparison to Drop Dead Diva. Music includes "Dorothy & Eve" (Cosy Sheridan).
August 9, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Bariatric Medicine, Weight Stigma, & Huge Hopes Endangered."
Discussion of: concerns and whistle-blowing about bariatric surgery; weight stigma and its effect upon health;
and The Doughnut Scene in last week's episode of HUGE.
August 2, 2010 show:
"Medicalization." Discussion of research on weight management failing to meet the standards of
evidence-based medicine, the cost of medicalizing "normal" conditions and problems, and "normality as an
endangered species." Music includes "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots), "Fat Boys" (Uncle Bonsai)
& "Chubby Man Blues" (Les Kerr).
July 26, 2010 show:
"Conversation about Summer Fiction." Discussion with authors Pat Ballard, Lynne Murray and
Judy Bagshaw.
July 19, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "BMI, Health & Medical Prejudice." Music includes "Happy
Being Fat" (Big Dee Irwin).
July 12, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Prescription for Problems." Music includes "Suit Yourself"
(Kate Campbell) & "Happy Childhood" (Marshall Chapman).
July 5, 2010 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Huge Hopes." Music includes "Beautiful" (Spirit Foundry).
June 28, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Bathing Suits & Loving Your Body." Music includes "All
Alone with a Bathing Suit" (Cosy Sheridan), "The Bathing Suit Song" (Minna Bromberg) & "Even
Free" (Kristi Martel).
June 21, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Summertime Fun." Music includes "Fat Bottomed Girls" &
"Somebody to Love" (Queen) & "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
June 14, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "A Conversation with Lynne Murray, author of Bride of the Living
Dead & the Josephine Fuller mystery novels." Music includes "Big Girl (You Are Beautiful)"
(Mika).
June 7, 2010 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Divas." Music includes "Diva with a Fever" (Josh Max's Outfit) &
"Hottie" (Jana Stanfield).
May 24, 2010 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "Grabbag." Music includes "The Locust Years" & "Lanterns on the Levee"
(Kate Campbell).
May 17, 2010 show with
co-host Pat Ballard: "The War on Fat Kids." Music includes "Dark Night of the Soul" (Kate
Campbell).
May 10, 2010 show:
"Nashville Flood Edition." Music includes "We Are the Champions" (Queen), "All In This Together"
(Jana Stanfield), "Healing in the Hands of Time" (Karen Taylor Goode), "Be At Peace" (Suchi
Waters Benjamin), "Healing Ground" (Fortunate Sons), "Rise Above" & "Who Is This Teacher of
Mine?" (Tom Benjamin).
April 26, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Plane Travel & Seat Size." Music includes "Fit, Fat &
Fine" (Candye Kane).
April 19, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Fat Hatred, Fearmongering & Diseasemongering." Music
includes "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca Riots) & "If I Had No Fear" (Jana Stanfield). [Note:
There is a 30-second period of "dead air" at the beginning of the recording due to a microphone not working.
After the theme song ("Freedom" by Suchi Waters Benjamin) plays, the show proceeds as usual via another
microphone.]
April 12, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Body Size Calculus." Music includes "Chubby Man Blues" (Les
Kerr) & "Built for Luxury" (Abby Burke).
April 5, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Honoring National Poetry Month." Music includes "Phenomenal
Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
March 29, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Peace Treaty with Your Body." Music includes "Be At Peace"
(Suchi Waters Benjamin) & "Hottie" (Jana Stanfield).
March 22, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Music!" Includes "Peel Me a Grape" (Anita
O'Day), "Everybody Eats When They Come to My House" (Cab Calloway), "Big Rock Candy Mountain"
(Harry McClintock), "Boogie Woogie Blue Plate" (Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five), "Dinner At
Aunt Stella's" (Les Kerr), "Chicken Cordon Bleus" (Steve Goodman), "Women's Bodies" (Rebecca
Riots), "So Round So Firm So Fully Packed" (Merle Travis), "Big Girl (You Are Beautiful)"
(Mika), "Fat Bottomed Girls" (Queen), "Big Fat Blonde" (The Rainmakers), "Unconditional
Love" (Tom Benjamin), "Choose Love" (Fortunate Sons), "Fat Cat Keeps Getting Fatter" (Squirrel
Nut Zippers), & "Wide Clyde" (Blue Lunch).
March 8, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Hungry Children & the 'War on Obesity.'" Music includes
"Empty Bowl" (Suchi Waters Benjamin) & "Everybody Eats When They Come to My House" (Cab
Calloway).
March 1, 2010 show: "Health
Care Lobbying & Medication Misleading." Music includes "Roly Poly" (Bob Wills), "Women's
Bodies (Rebecca Riots), "Fat Girl" (Creamy Goodness), "Even Free" (Kristi Martel), "Fat Cat
Keeps Getting Fatter" (Squirrel Nut Zippers), "Phenomenal Woman" (Ruthie Foster).
February 22, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "Fearlessness." What would YOU do this year if you had
no fear? Music includes "If I Had No Fear" (Jana Stanfield).
February 8, 2010
show with co-host Pat Ballard: "We're Back!" Live show returns with discussion of host
Peggy Elam's recent surgery and how encounters with weight-focused health professionals may have delayed
appropriate diagnosis and treatment.
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